Billiards

several times before
Played 20100113 [Ctthrt] Stephanie Josh Me. Me first. I won.
Played 20100113 [9-ball] Stephanie Josh Me. Me first. I won. [On break]
Played 20100113 [9-ball] Stephanie Josh Me. Me first. I won.
Played 20100113 [Ctthrt] Stephanie Josh Me. Me first. I won.
Played 20100113 [Ctthrt] Phuong Daniel JonWest/Me. JonWest/Me won.
Played 20100113 [8-ball] Phuong Me. Me first. Phuong won. [I sc'd: 8 wrong pocket]
Played 20100201 [8-ball] Arash Me[Break][1]. I won. [Arash sc'd: 8 and cue]
Played 20100201 [8-ball] Arash[Break][1] Me. I won.
Played 20100201 [8-ball] Arash[3] Me[Break][5]. I won. [Arash sc'd: early 8]
Played 20100201 [8-ball] AliReza[5] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20100201 [8-ball] Arash Me[Break][1]. Arash won. [I sc'd: early 8]
Watched 20100201 [8-ball] Arash[Break] AliReza[0]. Arash won.
Played 20100201 [8-ball] AliReza Me[Break][0]. I won. [AliReza sc'd: my ball on 8]
Played 20100201 [8-ball] Arash[Break][4] Me. Arash won. [I sc'd: 8 wrong pocket]
Played 20100201 [8-ball] Matt Me[Break][2]. Matt won. [I sc'd: early 8]
Played 20100223 [8-ball] Arash[Break] Me[3]. Arash won.
Played 20100223 [8-ball] Arash[0] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20100223 [8-ball] Arash[Break][2] Me[3]. Arash won. [I sc'd: early 8]
Played 20100223 [8-ball] Arash[3] Me[Break]. I won.
Watched 20100520 [8-ball] {Ling[Break] Matt} {Hongtan Jingjing}. {Ling Matt} won.
Played 20100520 [8-ball] {Jingjing Ling} {Hongtan Me[Break]}[1]. {Jingjing Ling} won.
Played 20100520 [Ctthrt] Ling[Break][1] Matt Me. Ling won.
Played 20100528 [8-ball] Steve[4or5] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20100528 [8-ball] Steve[6] Me[Break][5]. Ended early.
Played 20111022 [8-ball] Arash[1] Me[Break][3]. Arash won. [I sc'd: early 8]
Played 20111022 [8-ball] Arash[7] Me[Break][3]. Arash won. [I sc'd: early 8]
Played 20111022 [8-ball] Arash[2] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20111022 [8-ball] Arash[3] Me[Break][3]. Arash won. [I sc'd: early 8]
Played 20111022 [8-ball] Arash[2] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20111105 [8-ball] Arash[4] Me[Break][4]. Arash won. [I sc'd: early 8]
Played 20111105 [8-ball] Arash Me[Break][3]. I won. [Arash sc'd: 8 and cue]
Played 20111105 [8-ball] Arash[2] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20111105 [8-ball] Reza[5] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20111105 [8-ball] Reza[2] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20111105 [8-ball] Arash Me[Break][0]. Arash won.
Played 20111105 [8-ball] ??????????????????.
Played 20111105 [8-ball] ??????????????????.
Played 20111105 [8-ball] Arash Me[Break][1]. Arash won.
Played 20111109 [8-ball] Arash[0] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20111109 [8-ball] Arash[Break] Me[1]. Arash won.
Played 20111109 [8-ball] Arash Me[Break][3]. Arash won.
Played 20111109 [8-ball] Arash[1] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20111120 [8-ball] Arash[1] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20111120 [8-ball] Arash[Break][5] Me. I won.
Played 20111120 [8-ball] Arash[1] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20111120 [8-ball] Arash[Break][2] Me. I won.
Played 20111128 [8-ball][+] Arash[2] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20111128 [8-ball][+] Arash[Break] Me. I won. [Arash sc'd]
Played 20120108 [8-ball][+] Josh[5] Me[Break][5]. Josh won. [I sc'd: early 8]
Played 20120108 [8-ball][+] Josh[Break] Me[2]. I won. [Josh sc'd: wrong pocket]
Played 20120108 [8-ball][+] Josh[4] Me[Break]. Josh won. [I sc'd: 8 and cue]
Played 20120108 [8-ball][+] Josh[Break] Me[0]. Josh won.
Played 20120108 [8-ball][+] Josh[1] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20120129 [8-ball][+] Arash[4] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20120129 [8-ball][+] Arash[Break][3] Me. I won.
Played 20120129 [8-ball][+] Arash[2] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20120129 [8-ball][+] Arash[Break][0] Me. I won.
Played 20120131 [8-ball][+] Arash[1] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20120131 [8-ball][+] Arash[Break] Me[1]. Arash won.
Played 20120204 [8-ball][+] Arash[3] Me[Break][2]. Arash won. [I sc'd: early 8]
Played 20120204 [8-ball][+] Arash[Break][5] Me[4]. I won. [I sc'd: early 8]
Played 20120204 [8-ball][+] Arash Me[Break][1]. Arash won.
Played 20120204 [8-ball][+] Arash[Break] Me[0]. Arash won.
Played 201203## [8-ball][+] Arash[2] Me[Break]. Arash won. [I sc'd: 8 wrong pocket]
Played 201203## [8-ball][+] Arash[Break] Me[1]. Arash won.
Played 201203## [8-ball][+] Arash[1] Me[Break]. Arash won. [I sc'd: 8 wrong pocket]
Played 20120315 [8-ball][+] Arash[3] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20120315 [8-ball][+] Arash[Break] Me[0]. Arash won.
Played 20120315 [8-ball][+] Arash Me[Break][0]. Arash won.
Played 20120315 [8-ball][+] Arash[Break][0] Me. I won.
Played 20120318 [9-ball] Arash Me. 3-2.
Played 20120411 [8-ball][+] Arash Me[Break][0]. Arash won.
Played 20120411 [8-ball][+] Arash[Break][1] Me. I won.
Played 20120429 [8-ball][+] {Student Student} {Arash Me[Break]}[1]. {Student Student} won.
Played 20120429 [8-ball][+] Arash[Break][1] Me. I won.
Played 20120429 [8-ball][+] Arash Me[Break][1]. Arash won.
Played 20120429 [8-ball][+] Arash[Break][5] Me. I won.
Played 20121006 [8-ball][+] Arash[0] Me[Break]. Arash won. [I sc'd: 8 wrong pocket]
Played 20121006 [8-ball][+] Arash[Break][1] Me. I won.
Played 20130725 [8-ball][+] Mark Me[Break][0]. I won. [Mark sc'd: 8 wrong pocket]
Played 20130725 [8-ball][+] {Arash Sinan} {Mark[Break] Me}[1]. {Arash Sinan} won.
Played 20131012 [8-ball][+] Arash Me[Break][0]. Arash won.
Played 20131012 [8-ball][+] Arash[Break][1] Me. I won.
Played 20131012 [8-ball] Vahid[1] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20131012 [8-ball][+] Vahid[Break][0] Me. I won.
Played 20131012 [8-ball][+] Arash[1] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20131108 [8-ball][+] {Arash Jesus[Break]} Me[2]. {Arash Jesus} won.
Played 20131108 [8-ball][+] {Arash Jesus}[1] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20131108 [8-ball][+] Arash[Break][1] {Jesus Me}. {Jesus Me} won.
Played 20131108 [8-ball][+] Jesus[Break][6] {Arash Me}[6]. {Arash Me} won. [Jesus sc'd: early 8]
Played 20131108 [8-ball][+] Jesus[0] {Arash Me[Break]}. {Arash Me} won.
Played 20150208 [8-ball] MarkE[1] Me[Break]. I won.
Played 20150208 [8-ball][+] Damien[Break] Me[1]. I won. [Damien sc'd: 8 wrong pocket]
Billiards

20100113:
[20100116 7:54 AM]
All games played with cue ball behind the head after a scratch. In cutthroat, a scratch resulted in the other players getting a ball back on the table, provided the player has not already been completely eliminated. The tables at Campus Billiards are great and the place is non-smoking. Valid move is hit three sides or make contact with your ball.

20100201:
I was unintentionally inconsistent with the rules. In one game, I believe with Ali Reza and Arash, there was a cue ball scratch when going for the eight ball, which I stated is not game ending (under my common set of rules). However, in a game between Ali Reza and I, for some reason when he scratched, sending my last ball into a pocket, I considered it game ending. All games were played ball in hand, and as such, I would have had a good chance of sinking the 8-ball if the game had not ended. ::shrug:: Since we were playing for fun, in the end it doesn't matter.

[20100203]:
I remembered to look up where to position the balls. Wikipedia.com:
The base of the rack is parallel to the end rail (the short end of the pool table) and positioned so the apex ball of the rack is located on the foot spot.

The article also had this to say about setup:
The order of the balls should be random, with the exceptions of the 8 ball, which must be placed in the center of the rack (i.e., the middle of the third row), and the two back corner balls one of which must be a stripe and the other a solid.

But I've always made my setup as either:
H
HL
L8H
HLHL
LHLLH
or
LLHLH
where H=High and L=Low

Of course there's also the reflection about the vertical axis and switching H and L which would total to 8 arrangements from which I always end up in. However, my goal being to keep the arrangement symmetrical as possible should actually have me only choose LHLLH and not LLHLH.

Note: I like to play by many of the rules set forth in the Wikipedia article, as opposed to various "traditional" bar rules.

A foul that I haven't played with but should start playing with is: (Wikipedia.com)
No ball comes into contact with a cushion or is pocketed, after legal cue ball contact with the (first) object ball (or 8 ball, if shooting for the 8).

20100520:
[20100524]
Now these games were played rather casually. With the two eight ball games, basically it turned out that hitting the opponent's ball was not considered a scratch. Otherwise, the first game would have ended in a loss. Where, in Ling's attempt to jump the ball, the cue ball didn't get enough height, hit the opposing team's ball, but the cue ball continued and sunk the eight ball. Also, during the first and third games, Ling's breaks did not have four balls touch walls and/or go into pockets. At least, I think that's standard.

20100528:
[20100530]
We were killing time while waiting for the improv show to start. The first game was quick, perhaps five minutes. The second game, I started losing focus and missed a bunch of shots. Perhaps I was thinking too hard. At the UCI student rate of $5 an hour, I paid $1.25. So we played for about 15 minutes.

20111022:
[20111022]
What a bad set of games. I either won or lost by scratching the 8 ball.
End game times: 5:42 pm 5:48 pm 6:09 pm 6:18 pm 6:26 pm
Upper bound on game times: ? min 6 min 21 min 9 min 8 min

20111105:
[20111125]
I'm not certain, but I think after our fourth to last game, Arash asked if I wanted to play a serious competition, best out of three. (I'm pretty sure it wasn't best out of five) Anyways, if we did, then apparently I didn't record the details. A do have some pictures with timestamps, but while a picture is usually worth a thousand words, the ones I took don't convey much information. I recall he won two out of the three.

8:05PM [Picture Below]
8:08PM I was stripes and lost by eight ball... Sigh...
8:16PM [Picture]
8:16PM Arash was solid and scratched the cue ball after the eight.
8:32PM [Picture]
8:33PM Finally I won. But it helped that Arash scratched.
8:40PM [Picture]
8:45PM I won against Reza. But he's newer to the game. I was also on a roll.
9:08PM I won. Two stripes left on table. I took advantage of Rezas scratch.
9:19PM Arash won. I missed my chance at the eight ball. And set Arash up for an easy shot.
9:29PM [Picture]
9:38PM [Picture Below]
10:00PM [Picture Below]
10:01PM Arash won the last. I take pride in having coached his second to last shot (side pocket).

20111109:
[20111127]

20111120:
[20111125]
So Arash and I have been playing somewhat inconsistently with the open table after the break. But for the most part I think if a ball went in then the breaker takes possession. I think I've seen various rules regarding possession, but it seems that perhaps officially, any balls going in on the break do not give the breaker possession of the ball and the table remains open. It continues to remain open until one of the players legally pockets a ball. If you legally pocketed a stripe, then your group is stripes. If you legally pocketed a solid, then your group is solids. If you legally pocket both (after the break), you get a choice. CORRECTION: The problem is we haven't been calling our shots. But officially, you should call your shot. If the table is open, and you call to pocket a solid ball in X pocket and succeed, then your group will be solid.

Also, I never know where the first ball in the rack should be positioned. Answer: It's center should be at the foot string and centered.

On a couple of occasions Arash moved the ball but I told him not to worry. The following was mentioned in the WPA rules:
20. Cue ball fouls only
If there is no referee presiding over a match, it may be played using cue ball fouls only. That is, touching or moving any ball other than the cue ball would not be a foul unless it changes the outcome of the shot by either touching another ball or having any ball, including the cue ball, going through the area originally occupied by the moved ball. If this does not happen, then the opposing player must be given the option of either leaving the ball where it lies or replacing the ball as near as possible to its original position to the agreement of both players. If a player shoots without giving his opponent the option to replace, it will be a foul resulting in cue ball in hand for the opponent.
One thing we haven't been doing is calling our shots. Also, it seems that it would be legal to pocket your opponent's ball as long as it's called and as long as the first ball contacted is from your group. Not only did I find indication of this in the rules, but the following page explicitly mentions it: http://en.allexperts.com/q/Pool-Billiards-2283/2011/1/8-ball-Block-shot.htm.

I didn't know this was a foul:
6.3 No Rail after Contact
If no ball is pocketed on a shot, the cue ball must contact an object ball, and after that contact at least one ball (cue ball or any object ball) must be driven to a rail, or the shot is a foul. (See 8.4 Driven to a Rail.)
I see no mention of the cue ball hitting three cushions to avoid a foul. We've been playing with this rule. I'll try to remember to replace this with the above.

In general, as long as you call the shot and make the called shot, you keep going. So if I call 4 in left side pocket, and the 4 goes into the left side pocket along with a 13 in the top right corner pocket, I still go again. Can't hit the 8-ball first until the end of the game.

We've correctly been playing under the rule that a foul results in a loss only when the eight-ball is pocketed. Otherwise the other player gets ball in hand.

http://www.wpa-pool.com/

I have printed out three rule sets and next time I'd like to try playing by tournament rules. Calling shots will improve the amount of skill and precision going into the game.

20111128:
[20120103]
Arash and I played two games today. We played the games with the rules I printed out. In particular, we called all our shots. Each game lasted about 15 minutes.


20120108:
[20120323]
Josh and I hang out at Classic Q. We also have some drinks. We each get an Old Fashioned to start. Then I had a Black and Tan (Guinness and Bass). I recall Josh getting something light for a second drink, but barely drank less than half of it.


Game 1: 0022 to 0030 PST
: Picture above shows game break.
: Picture below shows game end.


Game 2: 0030 to 0045 PST
: Picture below shows the eight ball in the wrong pocket.


Game 3: 0045 to 0054 PST
Game 4: 0054 to 0117 PST
Game 5: 0117 to 0136 PST
: Picture below shows game end.

I wrote: "I break. Josh is stripes. I sink the eight ball in for an early loss. Josh breaks. Josh is stripes. We establish two uses of the mechanical bridge per game. 2 solids left. Josh wanted to hit the side of the eight ball to the left side pocket, but it went straight to the lower right pocket. I break. I'm stripes. 4 solids left. I drive eight ball in but the cue ball goes into another pocket. Josh breaks. Josh takes stripes. Josh wins. That was tough, we kept going at the eight ball." 1:17 AM
I wrote: "Last game, Josh breaks. He's solid. At near end we were a bit wracked to end as Classic Q was closing. I barely won. One solid left. $18.50."

20120129:
[20120413]
In our third game, Arash's cue ball hit a rail, then hit an object ball, but then nothing went into a pocket or hit a rail. I played on it, but is it a scratch? [I later find out it is] In our fourth game, I commit the error, and then eventually Arash committed the error again.

20120131:
[20120419]
There exists a text message in the drafts section of my phone that says, "I break. I won. 1 left. Arash breaks. Arash won. 1 left." I figure the draft applies to this date, because I took three pictures. A break, then a picture with a cue ball and 1 stripe, then a picture with a cue ball and 1 solid. As such, I will delete the draft text message and attribute it to today's date. Note: Perhaps as reference, the draft that follows is when I went to L.P. Steamers with S.Z. and the draft that follows that is "I break. I won. 1 left." Then a draft follows that is going to D.C. for Cherry Blossoms. Though sometimes drafts fall out of order, because my phone's buttons and touch screen are a bit sensitive.

20120204:
[20120226]
In addition to the game information,
Played 20120204 [8-ball][+] Arash[3] Me[Break][2]. Arash won. [I sc'd: early 8]
: Arash is stripes, I'm solids. I wasn't careful enough and scratched the 8-ball.
Played 20120204 [8-ball][+] Arash[Break][5] Me[4]. I won. [I sc'd: early 8]
: Arash is solids, I'm stripes. I hit the 8 in again, but I honestly didn't think that would happen.
Played 20120204 [8-ball][+] Arash Me[Break][1]. Arash won.
: No comment.
Played 20120204 [8-ball][+] Arash[Break] Me[0]. Arash won.
: I was up to hit the 8-ball in, but scratched, sending the cue ball into a pocket. This isn't automatic loss of game, but the opponent has ball-in-hand. Since Arash had no more balls in his group, he got the easy win.

The text message containing this data was in the draft section, so the real date of these for games is unknown. It's possible I took pictures of the games, but otherwise, all I know is they happened before Sat. Feb 18 08:02 pm, the time that I pulled the message out of the draft folder and sent it.

[20120320]
Apparently we started our first game at 7:58 PM and ended at 8:08 PM. Here is the shot of the end game:

After playing, we stopped to listen to a steel drum band. Part of an event being hosted by the Caribbean Cultural Society. There was free food, which I happily helped myself to. We left at around 10:00 PM.

201203##:
[20120322]
I wrote: "Played with cue ball after object strike. I break. I'm solids. I get the eight ball into the wrong pocket. Arash has two left. Arash breaks. He's stripes. Arash wins. I have one left. I break. Arash is stripes. I get the eight ball into the wrong pocket. Arash has one left." 20120308 9:49 AM

I assume that we didn't actually play at 9:49 AM on 20120308. Perhaps I took a photo. For now it's a mystery.

20120315:
[20120319]
In our second game, my 13, the last ball in my group, was on the edge of a pocket and after being struck, the cue ball followed. This gave Arash ball-in-hand and the win. 6:35 PM.

After our fourth game, we played some ping pong. We just rallied.

20120318:
[20120319]
While eating at Legends, the semi-finals of the 2012 Women's Professional Billiard Association (WPBA) Masters 9-Ball Championship at Soaring Eagle Casino & Resort was on television. We were specifically watching Ewa Mataya Laurance play against Ga Young Kim. The final score there was 7-6. Anyhow, that got Arash and I to deciding to play nine-ball instead of eight-ball. Later after returning to the hotel lobby, we watched the final match, Ewa mataya Laurance against Allison Fisher, 7-5. The game had evolved from 5-1 to 5-5 to 7-5.

Anyhow, the record of five games follows below. The first break was determined by closest to the closest side wall, and subsequent breaks go to the winner of the previous game. I tried my best to keep track of who sank which balls, but didn't specify if those shots were made in the same turn or multiple turns. In addition, there might be an error here and there. In particular, the shots followed by a question mark are questionable, as I recall T712 and T734 definitely happening. As such, we probably have A(5)6 T8 A9 or A(5)689. Anyways, Arash won those games.

I break. A1 T23456 A78 T9. 0-1.
I break. T712 A34 T5 A6 T7? A89. 1-1.
Arash breaks. T1 A2 T734 A56 T7? A89. 2-1.
Arash breaks. T1 A8 T2 A34567 T9. 2-2.
I break. T6 A12 T3 A45 T7 A89 [End 3:21 PM]

We were supposed to play first to five games, but for some reason we stopped when we played a total of five games.

We fouled excessively, but we only took ball-in-hand when sinking the cue ball into a pocket.

[20120413]
Around this game (20120318), plus or minus, Arash would generally prefer not to take ball-in-hand after I commit a foul. I've never taken advantage of this. That is, I've never purposely committed a foul to give me an advantage, knowing he would not take ball-in-hand. However, for many games, I wouldn't hesitate to take ball-in-hand on his fouls. Though when we last played on 20120411, I felt compelled to follow suit and not take ball-in-hand on his fouls. Of course, we both take ball-in-hand on pocketed cue balls.

20120411:
[20120525]
I wrote: "I break. Arash wins. 0 left. Arash breaks. I won. 1 left." 8:51 PM

The cue sticks at Nolan's on 33rd are generally all missing their tips. I should consider getting my own cue stick or figure out who to contact in order to fix the cue sticks being provided.


20120429:
[20120608]
Our first game was against one of my former student, who was also Arash's current student, and a friend of his. Prior to playing two on two, Arash had played a game against him one on one. But that game didn't require calling shots. It got tense at times, since we all joked about what would happen if he beat Arash. Nearing the end of that game, I assured him that Arash wouldn't fail him if he won. In any case, I broke and the turn order continued with the student, Arash, the student's friend, and then back to me. It was a close game, but they sealed the win.

Today marks the first day, according to my memory and possibly my records, that Arash is the first to break for the first game of the day. Generally I will break and on consecutive games we alternate.

For the second game played, his win came from banking the 8-ball off the rail opposite from the pocket. I don't remember if it was the long rail opposite the pocket or the short rail opposite the pocket, but a win from banking earns style points.

20121006:
[20121221]
In our first game, the eight ball was suppose to bank just once. But I angled it poorly and it banked twice going into the wrong pocket.

20131012:
In my first game versus Vahid, we didn't call shots, though I definitely played with precision, as if I were calling shots. If I recall, it only affected two balls (which went into pockets differently than I would have intended).

20131108:
In the first game, I recommended Jesus bank the eight ball against the long rail and make it into the opposite side pocket. He took my advice for the win.

In the third game, I go for a similar win, banking the eight ball against the short rail and into one of the opposite corner pockets. It should be noted that if Arash's object ball was just barely out of the path required by the cue ball to travel straight towards the eight ball.

The last game was a long battle over eight ball, but Arash and I finally won.

20150208:
Today I played a round against my boss. It was a close game. We didn't however employ the rules I normally play by (calling shots, ball in hand, various scratches).

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